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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

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Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Mar 23 2006 :  11:11:28 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
My roommate's dog has fleas!

She found one three weeks ago but neglicted to tell me. Luckily my dog Sky was out of the house that week and the next week her dog was out of the house, but yesterday she decided to inform me- and sure enough- my dog had 3 on her!

So of course we rushed out and bought flea combs, flea shampoo, flea collars and tons of borax.

Doing some quick research online told me that borax will kill the eggs (so it effectively will stop the cycle from continuing.)

Does anyone have any other experience with more natural ways to kill fleas? I did end up going to the vet today to get Frontline for my dog since I hate flea collars. They are really bad for your dogs.

For the Borax solution you are supposed to sprinkle borax liberally on your carpet or infected area and let it sit for half an hour, then vacuum.

Mari-dahlia
True Blue Farmgirl

269 Posts

Marianne
Hoosick Falls New York
USA
269 Posts

Posted - Mar 24 2006 :  04:19:27 AM  Show Profile
The borax really works, I used it In Florida, flea country, and it did control and prevent the house from being contaminated. I also use frontline, it is the lesser of all evils. We have tick problems and lyme disease here in the NE and I have to use it. Flea shampoos, sprays and collars are highly toxic. Your doing the best thing.
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Aunt Jenny
True Blue Farmgirl

11381 Posts

Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
11381 Posts

Posted - Mar 24 2006 :  06:37:18 AM  Show Profile
Borax does help. I used to battle fleas all the time when we lived in Calif. Here there arn't any unless someone brings them in and then you deal with it for the summer. I LOVE not dealing with them. We always ended up resorting to Advantage or Frontline..there were just too many where we lived to ever get a grip on them otherwise. Our dogs went inside and outside. I would treat the cats..even the barn cats and dogs and that helped. I felt like I vacumed constantly. Lots of vacuming helps too. I used to put a flea collar in my vacum bag and then vacum..that would kill the eggs too as they were vacumed up.

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LJRphoto
True Blue Farmgirl

760 Posts

Laura
Hickory Corners MI
USA
760 Posts

Posted - Mar 24 2006 :  06:41:42 AM  Show Profile
That is such a great idea, Jenny. I didn't know about the borax either. We had such a problem this winter, we are just finally flea free in our house. Great post!

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nh farmgirl
Farmgirl in Training

15 Posts

laura
sullivan nh
15 Posts

Posted - Sep 24 2006 :  3:24:28 PM  Show Profile
I want to thank all you girls for all the good tips on fleas. I have three cats and a dog. We also have the neighboors cat who lives in the barn. We are invested really bad. I have tried store bought sprays, shampoo and powders. They didn't help the dog got hides. So we went an got advantage at the vet. Well the dog is still scartching. My mother in law suggested spraying the animals with vinegar and water. She didnt know how much water or vinegar so I did equal amounts. That seem to slow the scratching. I am now going to continue with the vinegar and water. I will also try the boraxo and vacumming with the flea collar in the bag. Thanks again. Laura
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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Sep 24 2006 :  4:34:44 PM  Show Profile
I've tried everything and finally gave up and use Advantage on all my cats. That way I don't have to treat the house with all those chemicals.

Laura -- it sounds like your dog may have allergies from the fleas. That will cause them to scratch terribly. I tried Frontline on both of my cats when we lived in our condo. It didn't work so I switched to Advantage. Maybe try that.

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sunshine
True Blue Farmgirl

4877 Posts

Wendy
Utah
USA
4877 Posts

Posted - Sep 24 2006 :  5:17:18 PM  Show Profile  Send sunshine a Yahoo! Message
I hate fleas last time we went home to california it was the middle of flea season. My kid actual got them gross and I had to be the one to get rid of them. Took 4 days going through her hair with a pick and going over every inch. Not fun for me or her. I was hoping my husband would do it as his head is shaved bald no where for fleas to hid but all the girls in my family have hair mid back and down past the waist. It is like telling the flea well I am looking through her hair please come and jump and hide in mine ( none did thank heaven but doesn't mean I didn't think they wouldn't). We got rid of them before we came home but I was parinoide for about 3 weeks and kept rechecking not much fun for me checking or for a 7 and 5 year old who had a few in california.

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Bluewrenn
True Blue Farmgirl

1122 Posts

Erin
Texas
USA
1122 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2006 :  09:47:11 AM  Show Profile
Fleas are really, really terrible in Texas. None of the OTC stuff works, none of the "natural" remedies work. Citrus oil doesn't work. Borox doesn't work. We finally had to resort to Advantage and Frontline, but with 8 cats and a dog, it's really expensive (over $150 a month).

One thing we did find was that after the first month or two, we could stretch it out to 6-8 weeks between treatments, rather than the 4 weeks they say to wait. This made me feel a little bit better about using it on the animals.

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DaisyFarm
True Blue Farmgirl

1646 Posts

Diane
Victoria BC
Canada
1646 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2006 :  10:24:26 AM  Show Profile
I agree with Kay and Erin. We tried all the "natural" ways too and finally used Advantage. We only had to use it once. If you research the active ingredient, can't remember it off the top of my head, it really is not as toxic as you might assume. If/when we ever get fleas again, I won't fool around...just do it and be done with it. Nobody likes to use toxic stuff around their homes and especially their family and pets, but personally, I dislike fleas in my house more!
Di
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Phils Ann
True Blue Farmgirl

1095 Posts

Ann
Parsonsburg Maryland
USA
1095 Posts

Posted - Sep 26 2006 :  07:39:12 AM  Show Profile
Our current dog has the frontline year round, and we've been free of fleas. Occasionally a tick (dead or dying) can be seen in the house. Our previous dog solved the flea problem for us by rolling in chicken manure....then coming inside, of course. And she was completely psycho about baths. It seems that fleas will not mix with manure. Talk about a natural method! I prefer frontline.
Ann

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_Rebecca_
True Blue Farmgirl

568 Posts

Rebecca
OK
USA
568 Posts

Posted - Sep 26 2006 :  07:54:43 AM  Show Profile
On ticks:

I heard on You Bet Your Garden that you can get these things called "tick tubes" and put them anywhere that there is tall grass, hedges, etc and they virtually wipe out ticks. Most ticks are carried by mice. The tick tubes have pesticide treated cottonballs inside and the mice crawl inside the tick tubes and get the treated cotton out and take it back to their nests. Any mice coming in contact with the treated cotton in the nest the ticks on them get killed.

I thought that was really cool.

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_Rebecca_
True Blue Farmgirl

568 Posts

Rebecca
OK
USA
568 Posts

Posted - Sep 26 2006 :  07:57:50 AM  Show Profile
On dogs itching:

Our vet said that if your dog has an allergy you can treat them with Benedryl. Make sure to check with your own vets to find out the dosage amount and frequency.

.·:*¨¨* :·.Rebecca.·:*¨¨* :·.
Wife of Jonathan, Mother of Joel, Caitlyn, Elia, Nathanael
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_Rebecca_
True Blue Farmgirl

568 Posts

Rebecca
OK
USA
568 Posts

Posted - Sep 26 2006 :  08:08:11 AM  Show Profile
On fleas:

We use Revolution. It has kept our dog flea and tick free even out in the boonies with lots of woods around. She once had gotten infested in fleas & ticks (because of our neighbors)before we started using Revolution and I said that it was never again going to happen. It was sickening. After we starting using Revolution it hasn't happened again. It is worth the money in my opinion. And since I have small children I don't want to use medicated collars, shampoos, sprays etc.
"Revolution enters the bloodstream through the skin. Concentrations of Revolution in the blood and tissues prevent heartworm disease. Revolution selectively redistributes from the blood to the skin, where it provides protection against fleas, flea eggs, American dog tick, and mites."

I only bathe my dog about 2 times a year because she has a very low-maintenance fur that stays pretty clean and she doesn't smell. So treating her with a once-a-month medication is really quick and easy for me. I don't have to dip her or anything.

.·:*¨¨* :·.Rebecca.·:*¨¨* :·.
Wife of Jonathan, Mother of Joel, Caitlyn, Elia, Nathanael
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nh farmgirl
Farmgirl in Training

15 Posts

laura
sullivan nh
15 Posts

Posted - Oct 04 2006 :  6:37:48 PM  Show Profile
Thankyou all on your tips on fleas. I have done alot of research on this topic since we are so invested. We have never had fleas so bad. Ive tried it all. The store bought shanpoos, vineagar and water and advantage from the vet. We userd Borax on the carpets. I dont know if that helped or not. At this time we do believe the dog has had a alergic reaction to the fleas. We have notice they are smaller fleas now. Guess I will continue with trying to kill these fles. Sooner or later we have to win at breaking the cycle.
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doglady
True Blue Farmgirl

435 Posts

Tina
Howard Ohio
USA
435 Posts

Posted - Oct 06 2006 :  10:41:01 AM  Show Profile
Hi There;

I thought I would share my method of ridding the house of fleas since I have raised dogs for over 25 years. Here are the steps that I do all on the same day:
1. Start the pet on internal flea products or use the liquid type on top of the backs. The liquid is what I use. Internal flea products have been known to cause problems with breeding for my Schnauzers.

2. Groom and treat any dogs/cats that live indoors. Watch products on cats as they are sensitive. This would be clipping the dogs hair if it is a breed that is clipped and flea bath(I like Zodiac products best)

3. You will need to set off flea bombs in the house. Cover fish tanks, plants, canisters, and put food away. **Important** Put out gas pilot lights. There are flea bombs that have little to no smell. Clean and wipe everything that children or food will be touching. Zodiac has a bomb that kills fleas for 120 days.

4. Wash any pet things like beds, blankets, toys.

5. If you still are having problems with fleas, repeat the entire process after three weeks (Since the flea cycle is very short). These steps will break the cycle!

Note: I have found as a groomer that many fleas are brought in by cats going in and out all day long. You will need to treat them too.

I have been flea free in Ohio (major flea area) all year. I hope this info helps.

Doglady

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BarefootGoatGirl
True Blue Farmgirl

1495 Posts

Corrine
North Carolina
USA
1495 Posts

Posted - Oct 07 2006 :  10:08:50 AM  Show Profile  Send BarefootGoatGirl a Yahoo! Message
Fleas are aweful here too and as a last resort I also used Frontline this summer. My poor baby (120 lb German Shepherd...some baby) was to a point that nothing else was helping at all. To make sure I didn't have a whole nation of fleas in my carpet my mil suggested that I sprinkle borax on the carpet, let it sit a few hours and vaccume up. It worked great and it also pulled excess dirt out of the carpets. They were flea free and looked like they had been shampooed by the time I finished.

Trina

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Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds. Proverbs 27:23
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nh farmgirl
Farmgirl in Training

15 Posts

laura
sullivan nh
15 Posts

Posted - Oct 07 2006 :  5:13:09 PM  Show Profile
Hello from New Hampshire,
Thankyou Dog lady and everyone else for the great solutions. We are still battling fleas but I think we are getting a handle on it. I have tuesday off and will be able to follow all the steps you have written out Dog lady. Thanks again. Laura
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lilpunkin
True Blue Farmgirl

368 Posts


Texas
USA
368 Posts

Posted - Oct 08 2006 :  05:04:43 AM  Show Profile
If you are looking for a natural remedy, garlic gel capsules work. you can buy them at walmart or any other store that sells vitamins and they are inexpensive. Put one or two in at each feeding, don't worry your dog won't smell like garlic!

lilpunkin
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BarefootGoatGirl
True Blue Farmgirl

1495 Posts

Corrine
North Carolina
USA
1495 Posts

Posted - Oct 08 2006 :  09:01:00 AM  Show Profile  Send BarefootGoatGirl a Yahoo! Message
I feed my goats raw garlic to help keep bugs and worms at bay, but couldn't get my dogs to take it...even in peanutbutter. I don't know why I never thought about buying garlic capsules! Good idea, lilpunkin!

Trina

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Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds. Proverbs 27:23
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Apr 17 2007 :  7:21:54 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
Hi ladies!

Flea and tick season is almost upon us so I thought I would refresh this page :)

Alee
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Aug 18 2007 :  7:34:39 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
bumping this since we are right in that nasty buggy season.

Alee
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Garden_artist
True Blue Farmgirl

182 Posts

Tammy
Southern Coast Oregon
182 Posts

Posted - Aug 21 2007 :  12:53:02 PM  Show Profile
I have three new kittens that have come into my house and all three were covered with fleas.

Blossom was old enough that we could treat her with frontline to break the cycle before we took her to the nursery. But the other two are two young. I tried a spray (from the vet), sprayed a towel wrapped it around her for a couple minutes (not her head), and then flea combed her. Both time I got lots of flea dander and a few fleas.

Yesterday she turned about 7-8 weeks and I bought frontline (or advantage not sure which) for kittens. Your are suppose to wait until they are 8 weeks, but I put the medicine in a needless syringe and put a half dose on Miya and a 1/4 does on Shadow (he's only 6 weeks) I hate using it, but I am worried about Shadow possibly having worms or being anemic from the fleas. They are living with my daughter in her room so she's vacuuming the room every morning and every night and it's really kept the problem under control.

Starting today I am going to have her start using the borax at each vacuuming as well, so keep her room flea free. I am also going to start putting a tsp (eventually a tbsp) of apple cider vinegar in the dog’s water to try and stop the process of the advantage/frontline.


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jo Thompson
True Blue Farmgirl

603 Posts

Jo
the mountainside of the Chugach in Alaska
USA
603 Posts

Posted - Aug 21 2007 :  1:02:37 PM  Show Profile
We have no fleas or ticks in Alaska! That was a big bonus for me, and Sophie my oldest lab doesn't get allergies up here at all. We don't use any pesticides around the house and up in the park of course there aren't any, so she doesn't lick her feet at all. If we leave the state she starts picking and licking again.

Unfortunately, I'm allergic to birch, so I sneeze alot! jo

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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Aug 21 2007 :  3:18:15 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
Tammy- you could also dust the kitten's fur with the borax. It won't hurt them.

Alee
The amazing one handed typist! One hand for typing, one hand to hold Nora!
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - May 02 2008 :  9:29:02 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
Bump

Alee
Farmgirl Sister #8
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CountryBorn
True Blue Farmgirl

1545 Posts

Mary Jane
New York
USA
1545 Posts

Posted - May 04 2008 :  5:49:07 PM  Show Profile
I had tried everything also. Years ago I went with Advantage. I know it is a chemcial and all that, but I haven't had a flea on any of my dogs or in my house for years now. I love it.

MJ

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